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Understanding Narcissism with Tony Overbay, LMFT: Episode 72

In this episode, meet Tony Overbay, LMFT, Laura's favorite podcaster (besides Amanda and Kendra, of course). In addition to being a licensed marriage and family therapist, he is a popular podcaster and host of The Virtual Couch and Waking Up to Narcissism, as well as cohost of Murder on the Couch. Tony is also the developer of the The Path Back, an online course to help people recover from unhealthy coping mechanisms, in addition to his Magnetic Marriage workshop and course. 

In this episode Tony:

  • shares his journey to becoming an LMFT from a career in the computer software industry
  • how he became interested in narcissism
  • describes narcissism and emotional immaturity
  • explains the difference between Narcissistic Personality Disorder and narcissistic traits
  • defines gaslighting and confabulation
  • gives his rules for engaging with narcissists
  • discusses trauma bonds, and so much more fascinating narcissism information!

To reach Tony, visit his website at